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Adobe Unveils Photoshop CC, Kills Future Creative Suite Products
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May 6, 2013
3:20 pm
Eric Reagan
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Photoshop CC

Adobe announced today that the new Photoshop CC is coming for Creative Cloud members in June. Alongside, the announcement of Photoshop CC and other Creative Cloud applications, Adobe stated that it would continue to sale CS6 and offer support; however, Adobe has no plans for future releases of Creative Suite or…

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May 6, 2013
3:54 pm
Tim L
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Some days I'm really busy… :)

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May 6, 2013
6:13 pm
Chris
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Good Afternoon All Adobe Users:

Sadly, Adobe marketing department and senior management brain trust (Chairman, CEO, COO and CFO) have decided that they can make even more money by forcing us users of their products to subscribe to an unending monthly subscription of their software if we choose to use it. This is just another in a ending ending series of many companies dipping into our pockets monthly (cable tv, satillite tv, Windows Cloud software, etc.). Where does end? I have purchased many thousands of dollars in software from Windows, Adobe and others, how greedy can Adobe be by denying legitimate users the right to own a software disk and not have to pay for a monthly subscription to their product(s).

If this is the wave of the future I will not buy another piece of their software, this is about greed, greed, greed. I think that all of us who appreciate, respect their products and use them in accordance with the licensed software(s) agreements we agreed to when we purchase and installed them need to write, Adobe, Windows, etc. and tell them "We are ot going to take it any more" We as users hold their financial purse strings and bottom line profit margins. If we slow up their earnings they will respond. REVOLT NOW! Let us "Let them eat cake".

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May 6, 2013
6:23 pm
Steve
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I agree, we in Australia are paying an extra premium now without having to pay this on a monthly deal so yes I wont be lining Adobe pockets until they become realistic.

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May 6, 2013
6:43 pm
Chris
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Hi Steve:

Write Adobe, Windows, Apple etc and tell them how you feel and what actions you are prepared to take and remind them that word of mouth is better than any advertising they can do. Like politicans until they hear our numbers and we cut off their bottom line they will not listen or repond. We hold the power of their purse and we all need to unite. Thanks for your immediate response and support.

Best,
Chris
NYC, NY USA

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May 6, 2013
6:59 pm
Adrine
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I think it is just cutting out the smaller people and only giving the big professionals a boost ones that can afford to pay every month . one thing adobe must remember that this cuts out students and that would be a mistake in the long run as they will find another product or even invent one :) as there are some clever kids out there.

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May 6, 2013
7:17 pm
Eric Reagan
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:)

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May 6, 2013
7:17 pm
Paul North
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yep, they think they have us. It's time to stop using their products and go for the GIMP style software programs around the world.

Between property taxes IRS and unscrupulous, unprincipled companies, we will not have enough to eat and pay the home loan.

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May 6, 2013
7:22 pm
Chris
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Hello Adrine:

Large companies that perfer to use the "CLOUD" are recognized by me for its financial benefit to those companies. They have many multipule users and a subscription probably works better financially for them. They can write that type of software use and expenditure off as a business expense and up grade as needed with no additional cost for the new software versions

I beg the question what about the middle to low end tier of users and purchasers? We may not all want to upgrade as we may not be able to afford it or all be photographers, graphic artists, publishers, students etc. I can only hope that some very bright creative genius' will reinvent the next generation of the computer software wheel.

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Chris
NYC 10019

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May 6, 2013
7:31 pm
Chris
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Hello Paul North:

That goes to my point of where does it stop and companies recognize the the well is only so deep and can only produce so much water, oil or in this case money. Your family, food and home must come first. Their greed is their greed. Let us all communicate to these major software companies and let them have a major lapse in quarterly revenues until our collective voices are heard. Their shareholders will shreek out in pain by the loss of earnings at their next annual meeting and we will witness change.

Best,
Chris,
NYC 10019

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May 6, 2013
8:12 pm
Chris
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Hi Paul:

Yes, I to have GIMP a free Google software. It is yet, another alternative and quite good free software. I emplore you to write Adobe as I will tomorrow with copies of my several email responses here on Photography Bay. I will message their their public relations and marketing departments professionals, I come out of a long line professionals in advertising, journalism, public relations and politics. I can answer their questions and challenges and they will be daunted by my responses, I assure you.. If this hits the major media, they will not be happy and have to defend against the claims and accusations. No company wants to be placed in that position. While, I am not looking for any pubilicity I will not shy away from it or be bashful about my response(s), I am concerned about what their marketing stratergy will cost all of us in the long term.

Thanks,
Chris
NYC 10019

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May 6, 2013
8:19 pm
Robert
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Upgrading faithfully was costing me ~$200 every ~18 months or ~$10/month…..now it will be $50/month. Hmmmm…not too greedy.
I'd be willing to go that route if Adobe would be willing to buy back my original investment of ~$600+ for a similar uptick….say for $3000.

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May 6, 2013
8:22 pm
Chris
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Hi Robert:

Don't hold your breath. There will be no windfall from Adobe or any other software producer. They are not playing Santa Claus!

Best,
Chris 10019 NYC

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May 6, 2013
8:22 pm
EricB
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Will ACR continue to be updated for CS6 if that is going to be still supported or will buyers of new camera models be force to sign up for CC for RAW compatibility?

I guess any student enrolled on CC find their subscriptions take a leap when Adobe know from registration details they are at the end of their course. Very neat for Adobe.

I was considering upgrade to v CS7 when available from my CS5 (assuming it was going to be). As long as I don't upgrade cameras I'll stay with what I have now, count me out Adobe…. When the time comes I'll check out Gimp and Raw Therapee again first. Very obvious money grab from Adobe here on an already very expensive product.

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May 6, 2013
8:43 pm
Chris
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Good Evening EricB:

I dare to say that CRS6 updates will no longer be available once Adobe announces CRS7. Like all other software producers once the new "suite or program" is introduced they discontinue new updates or support. Case in point"Windows XP" ending this year. This is another marketing stratergy by software makers to get for us users to buy new software, they could easily upgrade the old version with the latest firmware. In this case they are wedding us to the "CLOUD". I will stay with PS6 and let Adobe be damned for their greed.

Regards,
Chris
10019 NYC

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May 6, 2013
9:29 pm
EricB
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Adobe got hauled before a Parliamentary pricing inquiry here in Australia a few weeks ago alongside Apple and Microsoft. They were asked to explain why their pricing here was not in line with other countries. The excuse from Adobe I believe ran along the lines of "customisation of support to the market". The only customisation I can see is being very hard to install and activate a non AU version here for example… The excuses from Microsoft and Apple were equally flimsy. The most honest answer was – we charge what people will stand to pay.
In the mean time Adobe want an extra $100 for a disk if you buy online… That is a joke…
CC is just going to tighten their control and maximise what they wring out of their customers.

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May 6, 2013
9:51 pm
Chris
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Good Evening Eric:

I am glad that Austraila (UK) took the major software producers to task on over pricing. Rightfully so, com puter lanuuage(s) are universal and whether in the US, Austraila, Europe, the far East the coding and languages is the same with maybe some minor caviots.

This is another issue for fair trade and equal treatment in world markets. A copy of any software disk should not exceed $20 US dollars for the disk period, a new version of the software is yet another matter. The issue with the new round of software is the engineers, writers, producers and distribution networks wanting to max out the profit margins at the cost of the users. We as their users keep all of these parties in business and profitable, which then goes back to my debate and response about their GREED over exclusive software use.

Best,
Chris
10019 NYC, NY USA

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May 6, 2013
10:18 pm
Jack
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First, I don't have a problem with Creative Cloud. If it best suits your need, then all the better. The problem is that it doesn't suit my needs. Professionally, I use Indesign, Photoshop, Illustrator and a bit of Acrobat. As a hobby, Lightroom. Given the nature of the work I do, I don't need all the applications that come with CC, so why should I pay for software I'll never use?

From Adobe:
• You have access to the full set of Adobe’s creative tools, with frequent updates
(I don't need it.)
• Your assets, settings, styles, colors, and fonts are synced and available across your desktop and mobile devices.
(I don't need it. Who does Indesign on a tablet?)
• You are connected to the people you collaborate with and the people who inspire you.
(I don't need it. I get inspired *at* the office, and I can connect with them via email. And I don't take my work on the Appalachian Trail.)
• You are able to share your work and get feedback from the community throughout the creative process
(I don't need it. Do that at the office.)
• You can broaden your skills through access to the best training from the best teachers
(That's Lynda.com)

Furthermore, the software is huge by itself. For myself, each program is reaching the law of diminishing returns in that I'm probably only using 40% of what's packed into each. (Why is there video editing in Photoshop?) With CS6 I have far more gewgaws than I'll ever use. So why would I want to perpetually upgrade? I milked CS4 for five years and it worked (and continues to work) just fine.

And as someone on a tight budget, upgrading once every five years is reasonable. But paying $50 per month for things I don't want or need is out of the question.

I love Adobe products and I can see where there is financial logic in their Excel spreadsheets (I can't wait for Microsoft to start billing Adobe for Excel.). But I want more choices, not fewer. And for me, that means streamlined software that I buy when *I* want to buy it.

Adobe, if you are reading this, remember Netflix.

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May 6, 2013
10:39 pm
Geno T
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I WILL NOT be a part of the Cloud. I make a living with photography. A few years ago I had 44 weddings. This year will be a lot less, but I am now teaching a good bit. I make money with photography. But, not enough to waste it on expensive product I don't need. Maybe a big time corporate person could spend a fortune on the whole suite every year and the subscription is a bargain for them. Screw the cloud.

As it was, each PhotoShop upgrade had only a modest improvement. I have tended to do it every other version. I DO NOT need everything they offer. Why do I want to rent it all? It's like my local car dealer saying I can rent any vehicle they have. If I don't need their tow truck, van, or mopend, too bad, they're not in the business of selling cars to buy anymore.

Corel has some products that could compete. They need to change the name of PaintShop Pro (their photo editing program). AfterShot is their camera raw editor.

I WILL NOT rent the cloud. If I end up 80 years old working on CS6, so be it.

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May 6, 2013
10:58 pm
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Were you upgrading the complete software suite or just Photoshop?

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