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Adobe Creative Cloud and the Death of Boxed Software
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May 9, 2013
11:51 pm
Eric Reagan
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Adobe Creative Cloud

What a week it has been.

Many pro and amateur photographers, along with many other creative pros and enthusiasts, woke up Monday morning looking forward to what might come out of the Adobe MAX conference as the latest Adobe products were set to be unveiled.

Adobe teased us for several…

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May 10, 2013
12:10 am
James Jones
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CC = Creative Crap…. This wont fly for long, I assume the backlash has not even hit the fans yet. Good thing my studio and I spent all that money on CS6 since thats what we are going to be using for a long time now. Subscriptions? I think not my friend. Adobe needs to get there heads examined. Its all a money making scam!

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May 10, 2013
12:59 am
Rich Maher
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What a greedy bunch of assholes at Adobe. Screw them and their cloud

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May 10, 2013
12:59 am
Ed Mease
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Adobe has made some amazing software over the years and because of that has done well and profited. They have become the standard for the go to software. It's because of the small mom and pop businesses that have a nickel budget and can only afford to make small investments that Adobe has done so well. It's not the mega shops that made them so successful. It's you and I, the people who have a very small budget to play with each year that made them the company they are. We bought their product and then told our friends and co-partners about their amazing products. So then our friends and co-partners went out and bought the products also. They in turn told their friends and their co-partners and those partners went out and bought and invested in the software. This is how Adobe became so successful. They have run amok. Adobe thinks they can force this down the communities throat. It's time for a new software company to compete against Adobe. Lack of competition causes this kind of problem to arise. They start to think they are greater than they are. They start to think they can do what ever they want. They think they can get away with it. I say no more purchases of Adobe product. I am going to look for another resource edit my photo images with. I don't need them as much as they need me. It's time to cut Adobe balls off. Hopefully they'll rethink their idiotic plan. I don't need all the latest and greatest creative cloud bells and whistles. They Adobe are going to find out that the market is not as large as they think it is.

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May 10, 2013
1:06 am
Ed Mease
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Hey Eric get a grip you been drinking too much of their Kool-Aid. Haven't you read the news people are having a hard time just buying the gasoline for their cars. When it comes down to it and you have money for food or software where do you think that people are going to spend their money. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid need a reality check. It's because of articles like what you're writing that Adobe thinks they can get away with this. You really are part of the problem.

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May 10, 2013
1:27 am
Gary
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I wouldn't pay anyone anything for anything in the cloud. I will just use CS6 until some other company comes out with something better in s box. So long Adobe. I tried to be loyal.

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May 10, 2013
1:37 am
Jerry
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Lease a car, in the end you've paid a lot and you end up with nothing, same thing here!

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May 10, 2013
1:40 am
Dave B
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Ditto to all the above!!
Where does Elements stand?

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May 10, 2013
1:48 am
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I learned a new term recently: Golden Handcuffs.  Often there is an advantage to both the purchaser and the seller with Golden Handcuffs.  I do not see advantage to the purchaser here unless you are a professional.  I agree that Adobe has gotten greedy.  For justification they say that they are losing money because of pirated software.  I say BS.  If a company can make software as sophisticated as the Abode products are, they can create code to prevent their software from being pirated.  I am one of those individuals mentioned in the article that is older (67) on a fixed income who doesn't want automatic deductions from my account each month.  I use Photoshop and Lightroom.  I don't want to spend $600 a year for software that I will never use.  If this does happen, I will use my current Photoshop 6 and Lightroom 4 for 2,3,4 years and when it is time to get something more sophisticated and I will buy a competitor's product even if it is 2nd, 3rd, or 4th best.

The big winner will not be Adobe but PhotoDirector4, Picasa, Corel, etc.

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May 10, 2013
1:49 am
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Hey Ed.

I can understand where you are coming from, but I'm not drinking anyone's Kool-Aid. I think there are some problems with CC, and I felt like I made those points fairly clear and unapologetic with regard to how Adobe has implemented it.

Last year, I had the option to continue with a Creative Suite upgrade, or join Creative Cloud. It made economic sense for me to go the Creative Cloud route, which I explained above, because I use more than just Photoshop.

I tried to offer a balanced approach in the article by looking at other serious concerns, which don't necessarily directly impact me. However, that may be part of the problem of being both a user and an author is that my personal usage viewpoint carries through. If that is muddled in the article, I hope this response clarifies the message I attempted to convey.

Just because I like a product, doesn't mean I think everything is perfect about it. Again, I highlighted some serious concerns – particularly with regard to amateur/enthusiast users.

In your previous comment, you referenced the need for competition. I think that is a very relevant point and one that will be interesting to watch play out in the coming months/years. However, there has been competition for Photoshop for many years (Corel, GIMP, Pixelmator) – the competition just hasn't gained much market share against the 800lb gorilla.

Let's see what happens next.

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May 10, 2013
1:50 am
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I've seen or heard no updates regarding Elements. As far as I know, it should remain standalone.

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May 10, 2013
2:02 am
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I am from a country where unfortunately only pirated versions are used. Personally I feel happy for sealing the fate of pirates.I may have to pay little bit more for cloud but I standout because others who donot use cloud cannot compete with me.I welcome the change.

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May 10, 2013
2:14 am
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I live in South Africa where unless you live in an urban area internet access is to say the least very slow. I tried earlier this year to join the "Cloud" it did not work!

 

After contacting Adobe I was told that it could never work with such a slow download speed, so all of this useless to me.

 

Like so many others I have paid a lot of money over the past 10 years for my initial purchase and subsequent updates, Adobe is nothing short of a money grabbing organisation and is now of no use to a LOYAL customer. THANKS FOR THAT!!!

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May 10, 2013
2:46 am
John Keedy
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Exactly the point. That's why more people buy than lease.

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May 10, 2013
2:56 am
Robert
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As a Production Premium CS6 owner there are several programs in Creative Cloud I would NEVER open but I'd still be forced to pay for every month… forever! The video enthusiast who makes a few extra dollars a year can't justify such an expense. I might have felt better about this if they kept similar bundles and pricing to CS i.e. "Production Premium CC" for $30/mo ($360/yr) with an option to own what you've paid for after 2 years. But taking away the option of ownership and jacking up the price to $600 a year completely is spitting in the face of their customer. FCP7/X, Avid, Vegas, are all good edit suites but I wanted to be loyal to the tool I enjoy most and I guess that will have to be CS6 for the foreseeable future.

I think this will increase piracy as their methods of prevention have not changed. The folks that have pirated in the past don't care about CC because they will just keep pirating.

I hope Adobe listens to their customers and has a change of heart. If they don't we will.

P.S. Nice article & Ditto to Rich Maher's comment!

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May 10, 2013
3:02 am
John Keedy
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I am one of those who does not make a living from Photoshop but have been a faithful customer for many years. I started with CS3. I teach Digital Photography and Elements at a local community center. I've always done my own editing in Lightroom and Photoshop. But I can not afford $50.00 a month. Yes I can subscribe to Photoshop CC alone for $20.00 a month, but what troubles me is if and when I can no longer teach, I will not be able to afford that. What happens to my work? I am 75 , healthy and active but for how long? Maybe I am one of the causalities that Adobe cares little about. I wonder how many more of us are out there?

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May 10, 2013
3:46 am
TimR
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fuck. i aint fucking paying no 50 godam bucks a month forever adobe gonna go down inflames they can go fuck themselves

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May 10, 2013
4:07 am
Andy Parker
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In the States you're all moaning about $49 a month, which is bad enough. Here in the UK CC costs over $72 a month. I don't know how much extra it costs them to push all those bits and bytes across the Atlantic, but I certainly can't afford it. What annoys me is the way they've been dangling these new features in front of us for the past few weeks, making us salivate with excitement, then drop this bombshell on us. The crack dealer has indeed changed the rules. I sincerely hope a competitor comes up with a reasonable alternative (I've already contributed to HitFilm's kick starter campaign), and this scheme bites them in the ass. I guess in the end we've got nothing to worry about though; those pirates are very clever people.

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May 10, 2013
4:15 am
TimR
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Anyone know where I can go to make a petition for all to sign to stop adobe from greedily gouging us with their insane monthly subscriptions?

I wouldn't mind 10 bucks a month for PS alone and 10 bucks for each additional suite and use a pay as you go subscription for those of us who use it on an occasional basis.. wouldn't that be more fair? right guys?

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May 10, 2013
4:18 am
TimR
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Adobe thinks they do this to keep pirates from copying their software when its really FUCKING ADOBE who are the REAL PIRATES

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