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	<title>Comments on: Canon 7D vs. Nikon D300s vs. Sony A500 ISO Test &#8211; Round 2</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Hannam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Hannam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 10:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just love reading forums like this. Amongst all the stuff, there&#039;s usually something that&#039;s useful. I started out with a 450D &amp; kit lenses. That combo really taught me how to take pictures! Then, as a pro, I added a 40D &amp; recently a 7D. So now you expect me to say that Canon is the best. No I won&#039;t. All the top manufacturers&#039; products are good. Their ranges always include camera/lens combinations suitable for anyone&#039;s needs. In the right hands, they all perform very well. The best way to overcome any problem is to learn to use your kit properly. I&#039;m still learning. When I&#039;ve finished, I&#039;ll stop reading opinions &amp; looking for little golden nuggets of knowledge I don&#039;t already have!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just love reading forums like this. Amongst all the stuff, there&#8217;s usually something that&#8217;s useful. I started out with a 450D &amp; kit lenses. That combo really taught me how to take pictures! Then, as a pro, I added a 40D &amp; recently a 7D. So now you expect me to say that Canon is the best. No I won&#8217;t. All the top manufacturers&#8217; products are good. Their ranges always include camera/lens combinations suitable for anyone&#8217;s needs. In the right hands, they all perform very well. The best way to overcome any problem is to learn to use your kit properly. I&#8217;m still learning. When I&#8217;ve finished, I&#8217;ll stop reading opinions &amp; looking for little golden nuggets of knowledge I don&#8217;t already have!</p>
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		<title>By: Mohamed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you review is great.. Thanks for your time.  Hoping to see more reviews especially for D7000.

On you the internet, no matter how well you do, you will find harsh negative comments.  I read a lot of reviews and I found this one was the easiest to notice the differences, especially the sample images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you review is great.. Thanks for your time.  Hoping to see more reviews especially for D7000.</p>
<p>On you the internet, no matter how well you do, you will find harsh negative comments.  I read a lot of reviews and I found this one was the easiest to notice the differences, especially the sample images.</p>
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		<title>By: Inst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Nikon has upsized to 16.5 MP, are you guys finally going to get with the program and accept that you need to resize to identical image sizes to have a fair test?

You are buying the camera to shoot a photograph, not a box of pixels. You are not evaluating the camera&#039;s quality based on the quality of each pixels, but on the overall quality of the photograph.

And as to the guy who said noise would smudge all the detail on the Canon, get a brain, moran. The Canon camera has more detail before noise kicks in due to higher resolution. As long as the deleterious effects of noise and noise removal destroys less detail than the additional resolution adds, the net effect is nil.

As far as the test does go, while subjectively I think the 7D performs better than the D300s, according to other opinions the 7D and D300s have about identical high ISO performances once resizing is factored in, so this one is up for grabs. Do you have a big stack of Nikon lenses somewhere? What about Canon lenses? Do you expect that the 7D2 will hit the market to meet D7000 high ISO performance, and that this update will arrive before a D400?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Nikon has upsized to 16.5 MP, are you guys finally going to get with the program and accept that you need to resize to identical image sizes to have a fair test?</p>
<p>You are buying the camera to shoot a photograph, not a box of pixels. You are not evaluating the camera&#8217;s quality based on the quality of each pixels, but on the overall quality of the photograph.</p>
<p>And as to the guy who said noise would smudge all the detail on the Canon, get a brain, moran. The Canon camera has more detail before noise kicks in due to higher resolution. As long as the deleterious effects of noise and noise removal destroys less detail than the additional resolution adds, the net effect is nil.</p>
<p>As far as the test does go, while subjectively I think the 7D performs better than the D300s, according to other opinions the 7D and D300s have about identical high ISO performances once resizing is factored in, so this one is up for grabs. Do you have a big stack of Nikon lenses somewhere? What about Canon lenses? Do you expect that the 7D2 will hit the market to meet D7000 high ISO performance, and that this update will arrive before a D400?</p>
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		<title>By: Photoopportunity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Photoopportunity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the test Eric. I really appreciate when you or others take the time to make and publish tests like this. As mentioned earlier in this threat it can give us all better and cheaper cameras. It is however sad that some people’s religious attachment to a specific company reflect so clearly in the comments they make. It tells much more about those people that it does about the products and your test. 

I do not have any knowledge about performance of Sony cameras so I will not comment on it. I do not find it a problem that it is not in the same price range as the two other cameras. It is mentioned so everyone can take it in account when they compare the pictures. I do however have to say that it is not optimal that the focus is not 100% correct. It makes it difficult to draw any conclusions and in my opinion it is therefore difficult to see the relevance of including the camera in this test.

I was a bit surprised about the first of your test though. The sharpness for the Canon was pretty much what I have experienced myself but I feel that your results for the Nikon was quiet a bit below what I have experienced. The second test is identical to my experiences for both cameras. I generally prefer the result from Nikon as long as ISO is below 800. From ISO 800 and above Canon have a clear advantage. This is not surprising. For many years tests have proven that Canon handle high ISO better than Nikon. What there maybe is surprising is that Canon is able to do this even though it has a much higher resolution. That is impressive. Nikon have wisely realized this and chosen to keep the resolution on a level where ISO handling still is quite good.   

Once again - thank you for an interesting test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the test Eric. I really appreciate when you or others take the time to make and publish tests like this. As mentioned earlier in this threat it can give us all better and cheaper cameras. It is however sad that some people’s religious attachment to a specific company reflect so clearly in the comments they make. It tells much more about those people that it does about the products and your test. </p>
<p>I do not have any knowledge about performance of Sony cameras so I will not comment on it. I do not find it a problem that it is not in the same price range as the two other cameras. It is mentioned so everyone can take it in account when they compare the pictures. I do however have to say that it is not optimal that the focus is not 100% correct. It makes it difficult to draw any conclusions and in my opinion it is therefore difficult to see the relevance of including the camera in this test.</p>
<p>I was a bit surprised about the first of your test though. The sharpness for the Canon was pretty much what I have experienced myself but I feel that your results for the Nikon was quiet a bit below what I have experienced. The second test is identical to my experiences for both cameras. I generally prefer the result from Nikon as long as ISO is below 800. From ISO 800 and above Canon have a clear advantage. This is not surprising. For many years tests have proven that Canon handle high ISO better than Nikon. What there maybe is surprising is that Canon is able to do this even though it has a much higher resolution. That is impressive. Nikon have wisely realized this and chosen to keep the resolution on a level where ISO handling still is quite good.   </p>
<p>Once again &#8211; thank you for an interesting test.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob McCance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob McCance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the comparisons. The ISO6400 is incredable, better than the old film ISO800.

Photogs are starting to get really spoiled and the young ones don&#039;t even know it.

LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the comparisons. The ISO6400 is incredable, better than the old film ISO800.</p>
<p>Photogs are starting to get really spoiled and the young ones don&#8217;t even know it.</p>
<p>LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristi W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the side-by-side comparison pics, so thank you. However I can&#039;t help but be surprised that the Sony a500 is included in this mix. I have the a500 and love it, but it&#039;s a $500 camera body (http://amzn.to/ad0Uvr). The Nikon and Canons in this article retail in the range of $1500, no? It doesn&#039;t seem fair to discredit the Sony&#039;s performance when comparing it to cameras that cost three times as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the side-by-side comparison pics, so thank you. However I can&#8217;t help but be surprised that the Sony a500 is included in this mix. I have the a500 and love it, but it&#8217;s a $500 camera body (<a href="http://amzn.to/ad0Uvr" rel="nofollow">http://amzn.to/ad0Uvr</a>). The Nikon and Canons in this article retail in the range of $1500, no? It doesn&#8217;t seem fair to discredit the Sony&#8217;s performance when comparing it to cameras that cost three times as much.</p>
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		<title>By: Nad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is your compare pictures Canon 7d and Nikon d300s but i not believe this picture is the right one ,For sharpness and color should be Canon 7d better than Nikon d300s (Canon have a great picture / Nikon have a great camera body ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is your compare pictures Canon 7d and Nikon d300s but i not believe this picture is the right one ,For sharpness and color should be Canon 7d better than Nikon d300s (Canon have a great picture / Nikon have a great camera body ).</p>
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		<title>By: Nirmal Harindran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nirmal Harindran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 03:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i second Alex and let me tell u i was searching for a comparison between Nikon d300s and canon 7d 
and about the pictures in question, could have posted the original images for download here and let the experts download it and analyze it the way they want it and maybe in the end at least some may feel convinced on which camera is better.. 
as far as i have learned, making comparison between these cameras is not worth the time im wasting here instead of going out and getting few pictures....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i second Alex and let me tell u i was searching for a comparison between Nikon d300s and canon 7d<br />
and about the pictures in question, could have posted the original images for download here and let the experts download it and analyze it the way they want it and maybe in the end at least some may feel convinced on which camera is better..<br />
as far as i have learned, making comparison between these cameras is not worth the time im wasting here instead of going out and getting few pictures&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, everyone saying it&#039;s not fair because it&#039;s not the same is just wrong.

Sure, if you want to compare x size to x size, however, it&#039;s not a real world test.

Instead, a 100% crop is fair because it is exactly a 1:1 crop of what the sensor was meant to display. I think it&#039;s entirely funny how people get online and complain about resizing being unfair because it&#039;s not a real test, yet they forget that doing ANY adjustment to the output before a test would decrease the integrity of the image.

You can&#039;t have it both ways. This test is the most natural way, at least cropping and image size - of displaying what the camera and sensor is capable of given the same PP treatment. So the Canon is bigger, so? Who cares what the Canon can do when resized to the Nikon. Don&#039;t we care what the Canon/Nikon can do when printed or displayed in large sizes with high ISO?

It&#039;s utterly pointless and ridiculous what people cry about - because it just doesn&#039;t make any logical sense. Resizing ANY image to compare such small detail like ISO noise is about the dumbest thing I&#039;ve ever heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, everyone saying it&#8217;s not fair because it&#8217;s not the same is just wrong.</p>
<p>Sure, if you want to compare x size to x size, however, it&#8217;s not a real world test.</p>
<p>Instead, a 100% crop is fair because it is exactly a 1:1 crop of what the sensor was meant to display. I think it&#8217;s entirely funny how people get online and complain about resizing being unfair because it&#8217;s not a real test, yet they forget that doing ANY adjustment to the output before a test would decrease the integrity of the image.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t have it both ways. This test is the most natural way, at least cropping and image size &#8211; of displaying what the camera and sensor is capable of given the same PP treatment. So the Canon is bigger, so? Who cares what the Canon can do when resized to the Nikon. Don&#8217;t we care what the Canon/Nikon can do when printed or displayed in large sizes with high ISO?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s utterly pointless and ridiculous what people cry about &#8211; because it just doesn&#8217;t make any logical sense. Resizing ANY image to compare such small detail like ISO noise is about the dumbest thing I&#8217;ve ever heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Quazi Ahmed Hussain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quazi Ahmed Hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still camera manufacturing is in the blood of both Canon and Nikon.  Same can be said about Olympus and Pentax as well.  Sorry, not about the rest.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still camera manufacturing is in the blood of both Canon and Nikon.  Same can be said about Olympus and Pentax as well.  Sorry, not about the rest&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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